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Thursday, 19 March 2009

Air Marshal Shahid Lateef: What is the story?

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Muhammad Anees said...

Air Marshal Shahid Latif whole Pakistani nation is with you. This is completely injustice. Come ahead and we come for you.

QaziRasheed said...

Injustice begets injustice. Mr. Shahid Latif you look around, if you did wrong to anyone so you have been wronged. The affairs of this world move in a cycle. That is called devine retribution. Dosn't matter whether anyone is big or small. At least one glaring act of your injustice I do know. Will you like to look back! Please?

Shaheryar Ali said...

State should fear the times when appointments of Army chiefs and Chief Justices become point of speculation of commercial journalists.
If sitting Air force officer shares his complains with journalists , khuda hafiz of this state. where is the discipline?

Khokhar said...

I think there must be some other angle to the story apart from the one presented by Mr. Javed Chaudhary...Does Mr. Chaudhary has a proof that an intervention was made by the Ambassador of some powerful country? Does Mr. Chaudhary think that the Ambassador of that country had received a kick-back in the contract of JF-17s? As far as the JF-17s are concerned, there must be some othere causes which halted the manufecturing of planes in Pakistan. As far as Mr. Shahid Latif is concerned, the best way to show his concern is by offering a resignation...Otherwise he should keep his mouth shut while enjoying perks and priviliges from PAF. Or he should raise his concerns in front of the government authorities instead of involving in blame-game!!

Lt. General Ayub Khan said...

Some people are getting upset for no reason.

Just remember that AM of PAF is one of the most prestigious positions in the country. Obviously a LOT of things are taken into account when appointing someone.

Our past 3 AMs have created MILESTONES in PAF --from UAV projects, innovations in weapons complex and rank system (based on TuAF structure), and of course the JF17 project.

Please show more faith and trust and accept whatever decisions are made. Forget this habit of conspiracies and politicizing things. It is unhealthy and waste of time.

The most important thing is that PAF remains strong, professional and alert to today's realities.

Anonymous said...

AOA all,
if ur saying that AOC Centre,DCAS O or AOC Kamra are the likely places to eleviate the officer to the level of air chief then why didnt Air Marshal Khalid made it.

ive heard that he was previously

Chairman PAC
DCAS Support & log
AOC Centre
IG Air Force

and along with that he commanded PAF base sargodha and all the key posisitons of sargodha including command of F16 squadron,wing and even OC of CCS and is a graduate of Royal College of Defence studies UK.

does it ring any bells.

so i think if AM Khalid is not making a fuss then Am Shahid shudnt make a fuss either n let the ACM Rao do the job.im sure he is capable enough

Abdul said...

@Anon, your point is very valid. Also, as Sherry noted, this is below the level of AM Shahid Lateef to approach Javed Chaudhry to express his grievances.

Aslam said...

guys I agree with Anonymous and also Abdul but i think AM Shahid is justified.it took him more than 30 years to get to this level n then an incompetent person takes over.mind u..initialy ACM Rao's name wasnt even sent to the president.then after a little while his name was added to the list.im starting to lose hope in this country.out of four contenders,our honest president retired the two worthy airmarshals Shahid & Khalid and the remainig two who didnt have a chance have made Air Chief and Vice Chief.the selected chief of air staff is good officer but his achievements are no where close to the top brass.once again injustice has prevailed.the meaning of Pakistan is the "land of the pure" but when it is ruled by Zardari or Musharaf then u can expect such decisions

Anonymous said...

The achievements and capabilities of AM Shahid Latif was surely superior to the newly appointed air chief.Now due to retirement of the all the senior officers Pakistan has suffered greatly.In my opinion President has got the opportunity to appoint 4 new AM's as 3 have retired and one made ACM so 4 AM of President's choice will be appointed.As long as the Pakistan is being ruled by incapable persons nobody can expect justice and fair play.

Raazi said...

Anonymous: As long as Pakistan was being ruled by the most capable person General Zia-ul-Batil, he kept Air Marshall Anwar Shamim as CAS, the most corrupt CAS PAF ever had.

Javed said...

@ Anonymous: not 3 but 2 Air Marshals have retired(Air Marshal Khalid & Air Marshal Shahid Lateef).the 3rd Air Marshal Hifazat has been made Vice Chief and the 4th Air Marshal Rao has been made the Air Chief.such a pity.

Ikram said...

May God Bless the retired Air Marshals for their entiring honest efforts and dedication.at the same time i wish the new air chief all the best because after all he is our chief.God speed

Khan said...

guys i have got news for you.the current AOC Centre AVM Atiq has been moved out to the civil aviation where he would be working under a retired Air Commodore.i have also heard that AVM Atiq would probably retire over there.so if that happens,then it means the final nail in the coffin.this Air Chief is definately a political apointee and is moving all the capable people out.i hope i am wrong.God Help Pakistan

Anonymous said...

I read all the comments about current Air Marshals and the story about the capabilities of serving air force commanders. Honestly, I felt ashamed, if it is really true that some of these officers have been talking to the press and airing their grievances!

The PAF is a professional fighting force. The whole country is proud of them, their achievements in the past, and expects them to behave in a professional manner. When some of them start talking to the press it only shows how some bad choices might have been made in the selection process; officers don't cry in front of the press!

Simply put, good pilots may not be good commanders, sword-of-honor winners may not make the best air marshals, and courses abroad don't mean a person is the best qualified amongst his peers.

In the case of the present CAS selection, may I also add that the process is not simply a choice of the President. There are numerous channels through which screening happens and different agencies get involved before a decision is made. In the end, the president does have a say and usually would take a decision in the best interest of the country. I am thus confident that the new chief, who has served as DCAS (O) is definitely a capable man who will lead the PAF well. If nothing else, we should respect the fact that he has served in the PAF for 35 years and definitely holds all the honors that any Air Marshal of his seniority would be expected to have.

Munir said...

@Anonymous ....the screening was done by President Asif Ali Zardari.i think that says it all.i rest my case.

and secondly what did ACM Rao did apart from DCAS O.any highlights....the fact of the matter is that there is nothing extraordinary that he has done.his case is very weak.

the guy who did nothing...is supposed to be the best and the guy who did everything good is useless.have some shame and character.and For God's Sake stop supporting puppets.

Waqar said...

what is done is done.this is Pakistan.these things have happened in the past and they shall continue to happen.this a result of our own deeds.lets start from improving our ownself.and kindly stop commenting here.it only gives bad name to our own PAF.


Anonymous said...

Munir, the decision was made by the President of Pakistan who was elected to office by the people of Pakistan in a democratic process. If you don't like him, get rid of him, if you can. There is a democratic process for that! If you can't do anything about that, then remember this is the choice of Pakistani and thus learn to live with him and his decisions!

Anonymous said...

Regarding ACM Rao; he rose to the rank of Air Marshal before he was selected to be the Air Chief. Isn't that an achievement?

Please remember, at the top of the hierarchy they are all the same in terms of capability. They are all experienced and well educated/trained. FYI only the best make it to the rank of air commodore and above.

I must say we should not support armed forces personnel who speak to the press about matters pertaining to official decisions. This is not professional. In fact it is highly deplorable behavior coming from a commissioned officer.

Anonymous said...

Now days Pakistan has become of land of explosion, I am agree that PAF is disciplined force and selection is done on “merit”, but I am unable to understand that why AM Shahid Latif was promoted to the rank of the VCAS, if he has not the capabilities it lead the PAF. Either the earlier selection as VCAS was wrong or this recent decision is wrong.

By virtue of this one decision, air force has to loose the services of three top notch officers before time. In Air force humane resources are much valuable then the rest of the things…

This is common sense that usually umber two on hierarchy gets the chance to become the number one. All over the world vice presidents become the president.

Why such important post becomes the discretionary tools in the hands of the “illiterate” leaders?

Javeed Cohdhary rightly said that in justice is not only linked with the promotion, but also tells a hint on 100% commission story.

We have to stop the Chief justice story and have to upgrade our system of selection

Anonymous said...

i totally agree with Mr Rasheed. Shahid Latif should accept this as a good sports man.did anyone mentioned about his wrongdoings when he was in UAE,or base commander.plz look back this world is "DIVINE RETRIBUTION" bye and keep shut please. Rao is the best available.and u were shit scared of tanvir Mr Yes Man

Anonymous said...

i will just say that now PAF is no more of professionals as the previous Chief ha s ruined all the branches for his own personal motives.he has screwed GDP branch just to benefit his own sons and 38 wing.He has fucked up in style with AD branch and with engineers i will not speak. this bastard was accompanied by his PSOs including shahid latif, disgraceful ganja(who has accepted to work under his junior), hasan and waseem-ud-din.History is not going to spare all of them.if u speak outside people have volumes of misappropriations against all of them.

Anonymous said...

Wow, that was harsh! Someone seems to know a lot about the PAF but doesn't have the guts to state his/her name. I wonder if this is anything but dirt slinging; not a thing an honorable person would do!

Anonymous said...

In civilised countries the next chief is nominated months ahead of time. In all fairness it should be the vice chief who should take over, and the vice chief should be appointed after having gone through the mill of higher appiontments. This way there will be no heart burns , no speculations and no leg-pulling. A word about PAF rank insignias: I dont like it. Revert to braids around sleeves on winter uniform and on shoulders for the summer. that looked unique and super."Stupid" RAF has not changed theirs for last almost 90 years.

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